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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? (expert modders) Reply with quote

I would like to make the models in the game with the reflection of the paint like the glowing of this cars:

merced500K_PROVOZ.4ds
speedster_PROVOZ.4ds
chema64_PROVOZ.4ds
fordt2_provoz.4ds
buik4_PROVOZ.4ds
hub01.4ds

if you put these models in scene2.bin and than play you can see the reflection

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:01 am    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

Very interesting, though I think these are Alpha reflections. 'Provoz' just means 'traffic' so I wonder what they intended by that.. for some reason 'hub01.4ds' isn't in my models folder though Thinking
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:17 am    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

could it be hud01.4ds (for Hudson) just wondering? Thinking
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:46 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

I mean that i appreciate this kinda of the reflection,
I wish i could have a drivable car with this feature, i tryied with zmodeler opening a car file like hub01.4ds
And just use the body on a working model
For example: hudfor00.4ds
But it does not work it crashed
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

Because the models are from Alpha they were built for the Hidden & Dangerous engine Mafia originally used, they'd have to be reconstructed to be used as they are in LS3D.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:27 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

thank's for the answer asaSK, now that i know this, is there any possibility of having the same render in reflection?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

I've mapped it onto a modern version of the 'hud01.4ds' model as a test - download this and tell me if you see the Alpha reflection Thinking

http://www.filedropper.com/hudcou00

[Insert in-game via createcar hudcou00.i3d in MafiaCon or in a scene2 with BSV, or start a Freeride session with the Guardian Terraplane Tudor (pink)]
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:24 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

it doesn't work, but it blinks Sarcastic with a dark brown reflection
but if you high blend the texture you have a similar effect
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:30 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

Hmm.. what do you mean 'high blend'?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:34 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

if you go in the settings of zmodeler you can choose if you want to have Multiple Textures(chrome) or
Always HighBlend(High Crome)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:00 am    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

Okay, I think I've got it working - give this a try.
If it works I'll put it on the other models you listed originally.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:52 am    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

it works partially Applause i mean it creates this effect but rarely, i drive araund a bit and sometimes the effect appeared, i think you are extremely close to the solution

but i found something interesting
if you drive the modified car buikFor00.i3d or hudcou00.i3d
if you in the tunnel from central island to little italy before you go out of the tunnel the car has alpha reflection, i think it is connected to the position that sounds weird but actually is!!

by the way could you explain me how to insert alpha reflection? Very happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:15 am    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

That's interesting, it could be location or the light change from coming out of the tunnel sector, which has special lighting independent of the rest of the city.

I've looked into it further and sadly i'm not sure it's possible - the cars on the LS3D engine were altered from Alpha so as to run properly. The difference between the way BUIK4_PROVOZ.4ds and BUIKFOR00.4ds are mapped appears to be substantial. The two models had their individual reflections (ENV.bmp and ENVSTILL.bmp) applied differently, so it isn't just a case of changing the texture or applying it as a reflection map Thinking
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:00 am    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? Reply with quote

And if we change from env.BMP to envstill.BMP
In case i will try to multiply the light sources so i can drive in all Lost Heaven
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:39 pm    Post subject: how to have a quality as like as in Beta? (expert modders) Reply with quote

i tryied with the light's but i doesn't work Confused
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