Will M2 have Internet activation

[Don Gameinator]

i hope they make it very hard to crack or impossible ^^

That is pretty much impossible to do, when pro crackers get their hands on it

[MafiaCiuvaz]

I hope it won't be like gta4. I mean ... that windows live and Rockstar social club - it's such crap. You have to have useless crap on your pc running just to play the damn game. It's totally annoying to say the least.

Look at Mafia or GTA:SA. You needed nothing to run them. It should stay this way.

i hope they make it very hard to crack or impossible ^^

That is pretty much impossible to do, when pro crackers get their hands on it

Indeed it is. I bet Razor1911 or some other well known cracker will crack anyways. There's no game released which was impossible to crack.

[crimelab]

i know all games can be cracked. but some are a bit more difficult like GTA IV (which i own original) i've heard that cracking causes too many bugs and some are unplayable

[MafiaCiuvaz]

i know all games can be cracked. but some are a bit more difficult like GTA IV (which i own original) i've heard that cracking causes too many bugs and some are unplayable

What makes it unplayable, are those two mentioned in my post lol: windows live and rockstar social club. You gotta have a legal copy for those two to get off you. If you don't have a legal copy then literally those two will drive you crazy. Also I heard you have to check you copy of the game everyday if it's legal or not somehow.

That's just sick.

No wonder I uninstalled this game after I ran it twice and each time it wasn't running for longer than 5 minutes.

[d00d]

It's likely. It's also likely you can do nothing about it. I swear, I tried to break BF2's cd-check for days before resigning myself to CD noise (I did in fact buy the game). At least an internet check won't drive you up the wall whilst playing.

[mr robville]

internet activation is now one of the smartest securities on a computer game,
like a few months ago, i wanted to see if my pc could handle GTA IV, so i borrowed it from a housemate.
but i gave up after the installation when i saw how secured it was, there was no way i could install it..
it's already registered on the net (i wonder what happens if his pc blows up or goes up into flames) so i can't enter the serial provided with the game.
there are no cracks, no serials or anything, and if there's a crack, i heared that if it works, your screen goes like ''drunken mode''

so i hate it that i can't test the game before buying it (theres no demo) but rockstar did a great job on preventing pirates.
the only thing that keeps me awake is that your forced to have internet on your pc.

what if my modem has problems? like it does now? no games, no games indeed.
even some games like the orange box games won't even start up when you don't have any connection at all (after installing)

but steam is a exeption

[PG]

On steam you can run them once on the internet then they'll run in offline mode after that

[bishop934]

internet activation is now one of the smartest securities on a computer game,
like a few months ago, i wanted to see if my pc could handle GTA IV, so i borrowed it from a housemate.
but i gave up after the installation when i saw how secured it was, there was no way i could install it..
it's already registered on the net (i wonder what happens if his pc blows up or goes up into flames) so i can't enter the serial provided with the game.
there are no cracks, no serials or anything, and if there's a crack, i heared that if it works, your screen goes like ''drunken mode''

so i hate it that i can't test the game before buying it (theres no demo) but rockstar did a great job on preventing pirates.
the only thing that keeps me awake is that your forced to have internet on your pc.

what if my modem has problems? like it does now? no games, no games indeed.
even some games like the orange box games won't even start up when you don't have any connection at all (after installing)

but steam is a exeption

Well, there is cracks and crack installers for GTA IV, Razor1911 released a crack for it that works with no bugs or anything. But I do hope there is no internet activation, because like you said what if modem has problems or something. Then your screwed...

[mr robville]

On steam you can run them once on the internet then they'll run in offline mode after that

not on my computer, the only game that works is L4D2, well.. did..
the game starts up, but after loading single player it gives an error message saying something like ''steam client rejected'' or something like that

[Mirc_El]

Anything you try to do will be cracked, so I see no reason to include this online activation. Or just because they will have sales in the first couple of days, but I'm pretty sure they'd have that sales anyways.

[PG]

Yeah, if people want it that badly they'll buy it or crack it. There hasn't been an uncrackable game and there never will be. If they cut this crap from their budget they'd probably find that they can sell games for less because they're not paying for the software and servertime and will increase their sales.

[bishop934]

That is very true. Game Developer company always complain there spending to much on making games, but they don't realize there paying like 1Grand on these anti-crack stuff, when the game gets cracked either way. There just wasting there money on it, when they can be saving a whole lot from cutting it from there budget.

[Don Gameinator]

That is very true. Game Developer company always complain there spending to much on making games, but they don't realize there paying like 1Grand on these anti-crack stuff, when the game gets cracked either way. There just wasting there money on it, when they can be saving a whole lot from cutting it from there budget.

With this money saved the game could be better than it would be with the protection.
I read somewhere that Rockstar spent $250,000 on the protection for GTA IV and it ended up broken, instead of spending it on protection they could have ported the game better to PC (More framerates etc.).

And when you think of it, if anti-piracy protection is no longer in games, groups like Razor1911 will become quite useless since they have no protections to break.

[Mirc_El]

And when you think of it, if anti-piracy protection is no longer in games, groups like Razor1911 will become quite useless since they have no protections to break.

No, they shouldn't (and they won't) remove the protection completely because that would be insane! Just the online activation seems useless.

[ALPHATT]

I'll buy the game. If the DRM gives me a hard time I'll apply a crack. No sweat there.

Edit: GTA IV is protected by securom, Social Club and Windows live.
Carcking it is easy. A launcher bypasses securom, you don't have to log into social club if you don't want to and you can create an offline account on Windows LIVE.